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December 7, 2004

I have noticed this happening in Australia, though it is nowhere as pronounced as in the US. This is a move way from liberal and liberalism. Liberal is in the process of becoming defined as a political negative, with liberalism becoming something of whipping boy for conservatives.

In the US this process is generally seen as liberalism being in decline. I'm not sure what means. Does it mean New Deal liberalism? Or the liberal values of secular modernity that defined and animated western culture over the last century of social and economic progress? Or is it liberalism in general? Or is it the defend the legacy of the liberal Enlightenment?

In Australia it is social liberalism that is in decline. Social liberalism in Australia meant support for the welfare state. It is contrasted with market liberalism, which by and large means economic individualism, the deregulated market, an emphasis on liberty more than equality, and a reduction and limitation of the powers of government.

It is the social liberals who have their backs up to the wall, and who are fighting the hegemony of conservatism+market liberalism of the Howard Government.

The growing anti-liberalism is a conservatism based on nationalist populism, patriotism and tradition. It is a religious, nationalist conservatism of Australia first. Conservatism in the US? does it mean a religious conservatism that puts America first in the form of empire?

In the article linked above John Lukacs says that:


"We must now understand that the collapse or near collapse of liberalism has not been merely an American phenomenon. Worldwide, we are in the presence of a dual historical development."

His dual historical development is one of the decline of liberalism and the rise of conservatism.

I find this too simplistic.

Lukacs' claim of the 'near collapse of liberalism' is too extreme. Market liberalism is still going strong in the US and in Australia.

Secondly, the 'decline of liberalism and the rise of conservatism' can also mean that the United States is torn about about what America should do and what America should be. Though that tear in the political and cultural fabric is far more pronounced in the US than in Australia, it means a divided nation.

Thirdly, the recoil from liberalism is a recoil from a statist form of liberalism, in which democratic citizenship has come to mean eligibility for social services and welfare benefits. It is not a recoil from liberalism per se. Paul Gottfried offers a good account of this along the lines of new Deal Liberalism as social engineering, the managerial state, and the new regimes of social engineers. This statist liberalism is opposed to the 19th liberalism of distributed powers, bourgeois moral standards, the need to protect civil society from an encroaching state, and the virtues of vigorous self-government.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 9:34 PM | | Comments (7)
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Gary

I read the article that this post referenced. I thought it was interesting, particularly the following passage:
"What may matter in the future is a division between conservatives who love liberty more than they hate liberals and conservatives who don't -- or between conservatives who believe in patriotism and tradition and other conservatives who believe in nationalism and technological progress." What I think this points out is the coming conflict within the conservative movement, at least in the United States. Old fashioned conservatives, if you will, are concerned about the activist nature, both domestically and overseas, of the Bush administration. It will be interesting to see how far Bush pushes his agenda in the second term. If he is successful, this might actually create a wedge within the conservative movement and open an opportunity for other points of view to be heard.

Actually, I believe that the decline of liberalism is because liberalism fails to serve the ultimate purpose of the people that are in power, who are ultimately trying to get as much money from corporations as possible. I believe, that even here in the states, there are ultimately more liberals than conservatives, those who believe that they should be taxed, and that the government has a need to do social programs, but they don't really have a choice anymore because both groups have moved so far to the right. In our two party system, it is no longer possible for us to get anyone else in either. It is really quite terrible.

Gary

I generally agree with your thoughts about the inadequacy of liberalism and the general move to the right. But because of the conflict in Iraq, and the tremendous cost of the Bush tax cuts, there are many people on the right who are growing concerned that the United States is headed in a dangerous direction. Of course this does not mean that the country will wake up one day and embrace a progressive agenda, but I think there is a lot internal resistance to the Bush agenda. And my sense is that if the Iraq situation continues to spin out of control, the neocons will loose their grip on power. At least that is my hope.

Alain,
I concur with your insight that there is growing resistance to the Bush administration's policies from within the right. Hence the distinction between paleoconservative and neoconservatives that has been explored here

From my very potted reading of US the resistance is coming from the Humean/Burkean strand of conservatism that is opposed to Empire.

I've written on this but I cannot find the entries. This piece by Paul Gottfried plus this will have to do in the meantime.

Alain,
This is who had I mind re traditional conservatism in the US. This conversatism is opposed the war on Iraq and the neocons.Thus:


"Iraq is the worst strategic blunder in our lifetime. And for it, George W. Bush, his War Cabinet, and the neoconservatives who plotted and planned this war for a decade bear full responsibility. Should Bush lose on Nov. 2, it will be because he heeded their siren song—that the world was pining for American Empire; that “Big Government Conservatism” is a political philosophy, not an opportunistic sellout of principle; that free-trade globalism is the path to prosperity, not the serial killer of U.S. manufacturing; that amnesty for illegal aliens is compassionate conservatism, not an abdication of constitutional duty."

These are oppositional words.

Gary

Thanks for the references. I really do appreciate it. Pat Buchanan, while a proponent of a severly reactionary moral agenda, is always very insightful about the choices we face. The Paul Gottfried article is interesting because it points to something that most conservatives, at least in the United States, seem to ignore: "Traditional Values" are often undermined by the promotion of what I have heard described as "Free Market Fundamentalism." If everything is decided by the market, then nothing is off limits. It is this dichotomy that I think could ultimately undermine the conservative coalition as it is currently constituted.

Again, thanks for all the good material you provide on your blog. It provides much food for thought.

I think there is a confusion (you point this out) between classical liberalism, which is free market capitalism, and what is now called liberal, which is a toned-down version of socialism. The two are opposites. Only the social liberalism is in the decline in the US. Conservatives are not against liberal values...only socialist values...they are proponents of classical liberalism, and that is on the rise.