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May 15, 2006

An account of how bloggers in the US are an integral part of the formation of public opinion in the public sphere. There's a market in the US for new voices who are not part of the political elite and the traditional media.

Bookcover1.jpgThis account sure doesn't apply here in Australia.

Bloggers here are still largely seen as amateurs and inferior to the professional journalists in the corporate newspapers. TV reporters and other "mainstream media" types are deeply suspicious of bloggers. The latter's deliberations on public issues are not seen as part of the conversation in the public sphere of liberal democracy.

Why is the US different? One reason is tha there is a biting issue for liberals, which has its roots in a constellation of expanding the powers of the President to fight terrorism, Congress being Republican-controlled, polling showing that a large majority of Americans are willing to give up their civil liberties to prevent another terror attack and a USA Patriot Act that passed with overwhelming support, and the National Security Agency's operations that the Bush-Cheney administration says are essential to preventing another domestic terror attack.

This constellation has a specifiic focus? ,President Bush authorized the National Security Agency (NSA) to spy on Americans without warrants, ignoring the procedures of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). First reports indicated that NSA was only monitoring foreign calls, originating either in the USA or abroad, and that no more than 500 calls were being covered at any given time. But later reports have suggested that NSA is "data mining" literally millions of calls---and that it has been given access by the telecommunications companies to "switching" stations through which foreign communications traffic flows.

In sum, this is big-time, Big Brother electronic surveillance that erodes constitutional liberties in the interest of protecting Americans from terrorism. It does so by deploying the instrument of fear-mongering and using "the War" to generate support for everything wanted.

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Stuart Carlson

Glenn Greenwald stands firmly on the foundational political views of the US:--that citizens can tolerate all sorts
of political disputes on a range of issues, but we cannot tolerate attacks by the government on the constitutional framework and guaranteed liberties. In his How Would A Patriot Act? Defending American Values From A President Run Amok, makes two arguments about this:

First: "The NSA eavesdropping scandal, at its core, is not an eavesdropping scandal. It is a lawbreaking scandal, and it is unlike anything this country has confronted before," he writes. More importantly, it "is not an isolated act of lawbreaking. It is an outgrowth of an ideology of lawlessness that has been adopted by the Bush administration as its governing doctrine."

Second: This fear-based ideology of lawlessness has no place in America, and must be vigorously opposed by the American people in order to preserve our constitutional order based on separation of powers and the Bill of Rights. This ideology is opposed by conservatives as well as moderates and liberals. It is wholly outside of and inimical to the American political tradition.


What lies behind this is the view that the president has absolute, unchecked power in order to defend the country against terrorism. It asserts that neither Congress nor the courts can place any limits on the president's decisions is to say that the president is above the law.

The Bush administration has turned away from the tradition of Jefferson and other founders of the Republic to Enlightenment thinkers like John Locke, which emphasizes checks and balances, and promotes liberty and human rights in theory if not always in practice. This civic republican tradition has been replaced with a justification of arbitrary power based on fear: a position best articulated by the English philosopher Thomas Hobbes and given the name Leviathen.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 8:22 PM | | Comments (11)
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Abundant technologies offer the possibility to publish books without having to go through a formal publisher/distributor. We published Patterns of Liberty in that manner. That is the third book South Sea Republic has published in that manner.

I don't know why bloggers/self-publishing pundinistas/citizen commenteriat haven't had much of an impact on mainstream media. When I was in Au in september last year we filmed a political talkshow pilot which had prominent bloggers as the talking heads.

Given the American experience I thought, at the least, that the ABC/SBS would jump at it as a way of increasing the public franchise. But no. Not a peep.

I had low expectations of it being picked up, but I thought there would be some interest.

It also surprises me that the Australian citizen commenteriat are limited in the public debate as it has members of the traditional influential class; like Quiggin, Gruen, Leigh etc.

Traditionally the talking head "expert on everything" was either a political hack, an academic of a media personality. Quiggin for instance straddles both publishing and academia.

With blogger added to his credentials he is the top of the Au game and the most influential on the political process and media.

Others that don't have the traditional background of being seen as legitimate are still screwed in Au I think. It will change, but Australian innovation in technology is far too often behind the US, rather than infront of it.

Cameron,

I'm not suprised by the reaction to your video. It is disappointing for you though.

There is complete disdain and utter distaste for bloggers and even more so talking head bloggers. The ABC and SBS are no different--bloggers are part of a vanity press and they are into personal diaries. For instance, every account of bloggers on the ABC on Radio National's Summer programme runs this line--summer is when Radio National loosens up and covers the blogging phenomena. And they mostly use overseas examples.

They have no understanding of the way the public sphere works in liberal democracy. The Australian media is a tight little cocoon that gazes at itself gazing at parliamentary politics. It's central concern thererin is the leadership contest, and it covers up the way that it relies on the political drip feed, recycles rumors, the pack mentality and blindnesses of the Canberra Press Gallery.

Bloggers just don't have authority--apart from Quiggin, Norton and Gruen. These figures are legitimate. Most of the bigger sites ---the group ones--have their own group of readers. As there is little cross referencing and discussion between blogs on issues we mostly have a series of little pools.

It has been this for a year or so.

Gary, I am not worried, part of innovating means that you often make room for those coming behind you, as it gets institutionalised behaviour used to something new. After they get their fourth of fifth pilot like that, a light bulb will go off in someone's head, "You know, we have had a few of these, maybe it is a popular movement that we can make money off?"

The leadership contest is totally boring to me. I hate celebrity politics, which is how the media skews it. Because of the celebrity nature of politics we have Presidential elections that are like American Idol. Maybe they should introduce run-off elections to more closely match those kind of reality shows.

It was good to see that Mark Bahnisch is appearing on radio. Chris Berg does too, but he is from a thinktank so has institutional legitimacy beyond his blog.

I got a laugh when I read that op-ed saying that the left needs more thinktanks. Larvatus Prodeo discussed it but about four entries below it was one where Mark wanted to set up a policy website where larger policy articles could be published and discussed.

Sounds like Labor needs more people like Mark Bahnisch, and sites such as Polemica, who can pull and a keep an audience, as well as innovate with the internet in how they influence the political order.

Cameron,
where do you think that blogs will go as the digital media develops? Will it be the case of key key group blogs such as Larvatus Prodeo and Catallaxy occupying key niches?

Will they evolve into magazine -style publications that can charge and get subscriptions--eg., New Matilda? Or Slate?

Become like the little magazines of yesteryear that have gone digital?

Gary, Don't know. I got surprised by the Australian blog phenomenon. It is the Auian political weapon of choice, rather than the big community sites like k5 etc. Politics follows money and voices, if enough voices are captured in one spot (ie dailykos.com) then politics follows.

It has also surprised me how independent Auian blogs are from the institutional political structures. That is probably a good thing, or it may just be Americans are more used to peddling influence by giving money, so expect their politicians to come to them.

By comparison Andrew Bartlett started his own site that competes for audience with other bloggers. A sign of an Australian independent streak?

I think it is good that politicians write diaries on dailykos, they are coming to the voices. I also think it is good that redstate.com organized themselves as a 527/PAC. Their immediate goal is creating political influence.

Au doesn't have anything like that, though the Think-tank/Academic/Media ties of the likes of Quiggin, Catallaxy and LP are the closest thing to bringing existing legitimacy, large audiences and influence together.

Quiggin has probably been the best exponent of it so far, managing to influence a Senate Committee and recently get a well known media troll to submit a correction.

Numbers count though, and I believe that some sites in the ozplogistan would be better served by using community software rather than blog software. RSS feeds can tie it together, but sheer numbers of audience count in having politicians and media take notice of a movement.

I think Catallaxy and LP would be best served by moving to community software like scoop. I don't think Jason Soon has those designs, but you can see Mark Bahnisch seeking to expand LP's influence. Which is a good thing.

The other problem though, scoop can have a bit of a learning curve, to admin and to publish with. Another issue is that Australian bloggers aren't used to the community style. Too individualistic, or having your own blog is too easy, or too nice.

Anyone can grab an account on South Sea Republic and blog immediately. But very very few have. And those that have came from scooposphere like k5, husi, kos, tacitus, redstate, oildrum, etc. For instance myself, adam, avocadia, siento and sven all came across from k5/husi to SSR. So it was scoop refugees more than anything.

I think the future of Australian blogs is that we will see a couple of blogs become community sites and creates mountains that the politicians and media have to be aware of, and take note. If Catallaxy and LP don't do it, someone else will.

There will still be along tail of blogs as people constantly start new ones up and fill every imaginable niche. But political influence will come through a couple of big sites.

Cameron,
Re:

The other problem though, scoop can have a bit of a learning curve, to admin and to publish with. Another issue is that Australian bloggers aren't used to the community style. Too individualistic, or having your own blog is too easy, or too nice.

If I link this to my own work then the technical expertise is not there; running a blog is not that easy given the content; I just don't have the time to shift to the community style. The individualism becomes a default position.

This blog is more essay bent, rather than quick blogging of the oipnion cycle over at public opinion. However, the long articles posted on blogs are limited by the blog form. They need to be seen as steps in a longer argument that builds towards a book form.

Maybe the group blog can be built/evolve into a magazine form as suggested/ is being explored by Mark Bahnisch over at Larvatus Prodeo. Different voices are needed---LP does have an insular feel--its own little community. ButLP is connected to--nay an integral part of the digital public sphere--- in a way that this very isolated blog isn't. It is one of the planets so to speak.


Gary, Yeh Rundles misses to weave in with a more recent post of yours as he only looked at the big blogs. They all follow the news cycle exactly - sites like LP and Catallaxy end up being the AP of blogs.

I suspect part of it is because the mass media is sloppy and needs to be corrected, the other part of it is the mass media writes to make you outraged, and people vent on a popular blog with commenters diving in.

Not everyone wants to read a three thousand word policy document though on a big community site the same policy document gets 260 comments.

By the same token a policy document on foreign policy posted to dailykos and redstate were met with silence.

Another reason for SSR to compile the larger articles into books was to legitimize it, as well as collect the quality essays into one compilation. Check out my online opinion author profile. That makes me laugh. The self-publishing route makes for a strong profile hahaha.

That all being said I enjoy writing on polemica as it is news cycle focused. South Sea Republic is not. I am actually proud that on SSR we ignore the news cycle. Then again, the news cycle rarely covers constitutions, foriegn policy, defence policy or republican doctrine. So that chance of intersection on those topics is small.


This is interesting. Other than some strike tag legislation SSR has done, this is the first instance I know of for a citizen internet site to create a complete legislative program.

I am hoping that SSR's Constitution Fun Challenge leads to similar things in Australia.

Cameron,
I used to subscribe to and diligently read Arena Magazine and Arena Journal several years ago.I stopped when I started working in Canberra and I've never returned after I started blogging.

Why? Because it is dam near inaccessible. You really have to subscribe to it or have access to a library that has a subscription to it. I've just returned to reading Arena Magazine because a few articles are digital.

What suprises me about the Enlightenment Leftism of Arena is the vacuum around democracy.Though I am not suprised by their hostility to people like Schmitt or Leo Strauss.

A little knowledge about Arendt and the plurality of opinion would have given a different perspective on blogs.

Cameron,
Kuroshin is interesting as a community digital forum--I guess that is what Margo Kingston was trying to construct out of Webdiary but she missed--a political community site.

Did her community group lacked the technical knowhow to pull it off? Did they not know about community software like Scoop? I always thought that was a pity things ended up that way.

There is a need for a left of centre political community site that has longer articles and is not beholden to the news cycle. Something akin to a digitial Arena Magazine?

Maybe that is what Mark Bahnisch over at Larvatus Prodeo is working towards when he says that:

I've been thinking about the question of opening up new spaces for longer and more reflective essays on the web which look seriously at the real impacts of policy outside all the spin, which look to analysing our changing culture, and which look to rethinking political ideas and directions.

It is the next step for the left of centre writers, isn't it.

Gary, Kuroshin is interesting as a community digital forum

It's heyday was 2002/2003 before it splintered and lost its spirit to lazze-faire editors. Adam still soldiers on there, I post diaries and the occasional article, but don't comment much anymore.


Did her community group lacked the technical know how to pull it off?

Numbers count. HuSi survived and became a thriving community as about forty or so core writers migrated across from k5. That forty were prolific writers and commenters. So it quickly got the appearance of a thriving community, which carries its own weight in attracting others.

K5 itself began as a mass-migration from slashdot. So it started with an existing large number of contributors. Webdiary should have worked as it brought an existing migration of SMH readers across, but the choice of software, and the lack of allowing any member to publish diaries killed it as a community.

Blogs dont work in creating communities. The software is not designed for it.

There is a need for a left of centre political community site that has longer articles and is not beholden to the news cycle.

Any political persuasion. The left/right dichotomy effectively disenfranchises me. My political beliefs are not so static, partisan or so ideological that they fit any neat pollsters cut. I am just as comfortable publishing as cam at dailykos, which can be rabid left, as I am as cam at redstate, which can be rabid right or the cultural laziness of k5.

I think it is important every political persuasion in Australia builds community sites that help's promote their view of the world but allows the intersection with others who do not. It is the best way that myths and factual inadequacies can get busted and some form of consensus found beyond meaningless partisan squabbling.