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Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: democracy affirming « Previous | |Next »
July 2, 2006

The US Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld that the US military commissions, which the Bush administration had set up to judge enemy combtants at the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba were illegal, under both military justice law and the Geneva Convention. Some comment here at public opnion. Those labelled enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay faced indefinite detention in isolation, and were subjected to harsh questioning for intelligence purposes, without allowing some kind of a hearing before a neutral body in which the government has to lay its cards on the table and allow the prisoner the right to say.

The Court's decision is about much more than military commissions. The Supreme Court effectively undermines the Administration's strongest claims about Presidential power. As Elizabeth Drew points out in the New York Review of Books:

During the presidency of George W. Bush, the White House has made an unprecedented reach for power. It has systematically attempted to defy, control, or threaten the institutions that could challenge it: Congress, the courts, and the press. It has attempted to upset the balance of power among the three branches of government provided for in the Constitution; but its most aggressive and consistent assaults have been against the legislative branch: Bush has time and again said that he feels free to carry out a law as he sees fit, not as Congress wrote it.

Linda Greenhouse, writing in the New York Times says that the decision represents:
...a defining moment in the ever-shifting balance of power among branches of government that ranked with the court's order to President Richard M. Nixon in 1974 to turn over the Watergate tapes, or with the court's rejection of President Harry S. Truman's seizing of the nation's steel mills, a 1952 landmark decision from which Justice Anthony M. Kennedy quoted at length.

Marty Lederman over at Balkinization argues that the Supreme Court's decision established some broad principles.

These principles he says are:

--- That the President's powers are limited by statute and treaty, and he acts independently at his peril where such statutes and treaties are in the picture....;
-- ...That statutes should be construed, absent evidence to the contrary, to require the Executive branch to comply with the laws of war; and
-- That Common Article 3 applies to all armed conflicts, a holding of enormous implications, not least of which is with respect to the debate about torture and other interrogation techniques.

This is a firm reaffirmation of the Youngstown principle respecting congressional power and against the executive overriding clear congressional will in areas Congress clearly has authority over.

This article in the New York Review of Books says that:

As Justice Jackson famously explained in his influential opinion in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. at 635 (Jackson, J., concurring), the Constitution "enjoins upon its branches separateness but interdependence, autonomy but reciprocity. Presidential powers are not fixed but fluctuate, depending upon their disjunction or conjunction with those of Congress." For example, the President in his role as Commander in Chief directs military operations. But the Framers gave Congress the power to prescribe rules for the regulation of the armed and naval forces, Art. I, ยง 8, cl. 14, and if a duly enacted statute prohibits the military from engaging in torture or cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment, the President must follow that dictate. As Justice Jackson wrote, when the President acts in defiance of "the expressed or implied will of Congress," his power is "at its lowest ebb." 343 U.S. at 637. In this setting, Jackson wrote, "Presidential power [is] most vulnerable to attack and in the least favorable of all constitutional postures." Id. at 640.

So to say that the US President has inherent authority does not mean that his authority is exclusive, or that his conduct is not subject to statutory regulations enacted.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 11:05 AM | | Comments (5)
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The overnight US Sepreme Court decision on the legal standing of Gitmo detainees is a decision which ultimately reveals how great is the US democratic system, and the significance of the separation of powers.

We has always held the position that Gitmo was necessary in the context of liberating Afghanistan. And our views have not changed. For details on its operation read here. However, with this Supreme Court decision, we recognise the sophistication and maturity of the US political system.

see http://weekbyweek7.blogspot.com/2006/06/guantanamo-whether-you-agree-with.html#links for more inf interested

WeekByWeek
Fair enough. If you deem Gittmo to be necessary, then presumably you condone torture as a legitimate instrument of interrogation.

This book highlights the surreality of it---the United States torture a mentally disturbed man and then leap, screaming, at every word he uttered. They're dancing at shadows.

I reckon that the U.S. government ignored the best legal advice the U.S. military could provide and tossed the laws of war, the reputation of the United States and the future safety of American POWs out the window. It was reasonably clear that the Common Article 3 Of Geneva Conventions applies.It says:

The following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to [detained combatants]: violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture . . . Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment.

That kind of language means no more drowning or freezing or savaging with dogs or smearing with menstrual blood, deployed by the Gitmo interrogators and field tested in the CIA's secret prisons.

What the US Supreme Court was able to to re-establish is the core principle that there is no class of POWs completely outside the Geneva Conventions.This puts torture by the hands of Americans working under direct American authority definitively off limits.

I think that Billmon describes the issue raised by Guantanamo best:

The problem, in a nutshell, is that the administration's reaction to the not-so-brave new world in which we now find ourselves basically boils down to: "The old rules don't apply (except, of course, where they maximize presidential war powers) so we can do anything we want. Get out the thumbscrews." The position taken by many liberals, on the other hand, has been that the old rules are just fine (that is, unless they buttress presidential war powers) even if it means pretending not much has really changed. This at times leads to the assertion that the war against Al Qaeda isn't really a war, and shouldn't be treated as such.

Though I side with the liberal position I do so with qualification----it is a (long) war and the rules have changed. The liberal position is that we need to protect Constitutional liberties or at least not harm them; and so resist executive power grabs and those who work to steadily erode freedom of citizens in the name of national security.

The latter is what long wars tend to produce, is it not?

A song, sung by a dreaming fool.

Lions1
which song by which fool?

Madison believed that war only served to aggrandize the Executive.

I am still unsure why the Bush Administration took this tack, it was unnecessary, and with public opinion against them, the legislative and judicial decisions in opposition will be easy (and popular) to make.

There is no doubt Guantanamo was cynically constructed to place the detainees as far out of legislative and judicial scrutiny as possible.

I still dont understand the executive power grab. I know that they think the executive lost too much independence after Nixon's excesses, but the unitary executive doesnt cover that.

Probably a mix of selfish power grabs and negative passions, lack of curiosity on governmental systems and some messiac complex that terrorism was the new bi-polarism where cold war rules could apply once again.

Either way, it was pretty dumb.