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March 21, 2007

The journalism vs bloggers debate could be undercut by the boring NSW election. This election is primarily concerned with who is better in terms of the management and delivery of services. If the Lemma Government is on the nose, then so are the Liberals. It's LibLab recycled yet again. It is becoming taken for granted that the state government in NSW is corrupt and incompetent, if not dysfunctional.

Alan Moir

Dissatisfaction with the incumbents isn't enough: voters need some evidence that the opposition would do better.

So how could the old journalism vs bloggers divide be undercut? Jeff Jarvis at BuzzMachine says that we have two models of the media: centralized and decentralized.

Journalism as a part of the media sees itself owning audiences. The SMH markets itself to get me to come to its site. Then it feeds me as much advertising as they can, until you leave and go elsewhere. That’s the centralized model of media. But bloggers are not an audience and we are not owned. Google understands this. They bring their services to my own personalized homepage. This introduces a decentralized media ecosystem.

Glenn Greenwald argues that one of the core functions bloggers could perform is to battle against the cliched narratives and reflexive mindset the media has relied upon for two decades now in determining which stories they select to cover and what they say about those stories. He says this refers to:

how the national media depicts political movements and the assumptions embedded in how they referee our country's political discourse. The point here -- as always -- is to try to force the media to write about the stories it covers in a more critical and factual manner, to compel them to abandon the cheap and lazy cliches that otherwise frame everything they write. That is one of the most critical functions of blogs, and it is one of the goals that is realistically attainable by bloggers and their readers working together.

Bloggers could question the conservative media hunts the Left under beds, in university corridors, everywhere elites gather to swap their dangerous opinions and fills their columns’ with their endless fake rage and challenge the conservative machines tactics of setting up fake controversies to mask the real ones.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 6:29 PM | | Comments (4)


Reminds me of the other day, whilst watching Conroy eulogising broadband at the press club on telly.
Half way through these proceedings, up hops a scowling Milne at the Murdoch table, demanding to know what a Labor government would do crush "slander" on the internet, especially Crikey ( slander apparently meaning any questioning of people like Milne as to their aims or assertions ).
The Poison Dwarf to control an expanded Reich ministry of Propaganda?

what did Conroy do? Ignore him? Defend bloggers? Attack Crikey? Talk about the public sphere and democracy?

The Poison Dwarf is full of resentment even though he is a shameless Murdoch spokesperson for the Liberal Party who spreads Chinese whispers.

Latham called him a rat in a drainpipe; a Liberal dancing bear who is an integral part of Canberra's culture of fear about policy innovation.

Milne is part of the super-insider Canberra Presst Gallery types who have all sorts of friends in various Canberra crevices. They are constantly chatting with one another, exchanging all sorts of speculation and gossip, and always engaged in a perpetual competition to demonstrate who is the most keyed-in to the super-inside Canberra developments.

These Canberra Press Gallery journalists believe that they have the most-insider sources and therefore to pass along rank gossip as news -- all in order to be "first," and for no other reason. They do this even when there is no journalistic value in the "scoop" even if it were accurate. they mostly recycle drip feeds form their sources.

Honestly, the Mayne Crikey's rumour mongering and Chinese whispers is no different to Milne .Crikey rules journo 's like Milne.

Not much point trying with Crikey anymore, since they shut off access for all their stuff. Will not pay for it same as will not pay for soccer on Foxtel.
But on the whole I'd read even Crikey before I'd ever even dream of touching filth like the Telegraph again. Read a loose copy on a train in Adelaide recently and couldn't beleive how so much lower it was than even the Advertiser. I suppose it's something to do with choice and demographics. One really wonders what sort of mentality would put out a paper like the Telegraph, let alone excuse it.
As to Press club lunch, am having a poor week and recollection of actual comments by Conroy are unclear- humoured the dwarf, I suppose- but must admit did not feel uplifted in my heart of hearts; just an effect conroy has on me in general, but could be wrong.
Actually almost laughed at Heffernan's prank with him other night, although Heff has done it before and like a big kid himself. Conroy is the bod who would succeed Coonan as to ABC/ SBS.
Recall he doesn't like bloggers. Reckons no one ever bothers to read them.

I had a subscription to Crikey for 18 months --it's expired and I'm not sure whether to renew it.
It was okay. I'm finding I don't miss it.

I rarely used Crikey for material for public opinion, apart from having the occassional go at Christian Kerr over his anti-green tirades last year.

Crikey were never supportive of bloggers as different media not in fostering a conversation in the about public issues. They were mostly about themselves.

But yes, they were much better than any of the Murdoch tabloid's in their commentary.