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a new cold war? « Previous | |Next »
August 31, 2008

In response to Russia's recognition of independence for Abkhazia and South Ossetia from Gerogia the West's talk is "cold war" and condemns Russia over the conflict with Georgia, and Russia's de facto control over two major Black Sea ports. In doing so the West has ignored--or forgotten-- the fact that Georgian armed forces attacked the peaceful city of Tskhinvali in South Ossetia or that Central Asia is close to Russia's borders.

As M K Bhadrakumar says in Asia Times Online:

The emergent geopolitical reality is that with Russia's recognition of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Moscow has virtually checkmated the US strategy in the Black Sea region, defeating its plan to make the Black Sea an exclusive "NATO lake". In turn, NATO's expansion plans in the Caucasus have suffered a setback.

the Georgian crisis is bound to linger for months, if not years, without resolution, particularly if the US continues to push for Georgia's inclusion into the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Theoretically, with Germany dropping its opposition to Georgia's bid to join NATO, as it did at the recent NATO summit in Bucharest, nothing stands in the way of NATO's expansion to the South Caucasus, or Ukraine for that matter,

A core issue is energy security, given the fierce pipeline geopolitics in the Eurasian landmass. The US's traditional turf is the oil-prized Persian Gulf, hence the US antagonism to a feisty Iran.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 6:40 PM | | Comments (10)


Ummmm they're Russians Gary. Russians are on the opposite team to us ... always have been. That's all you need to know.

I mean do the Maroons have to keep researching why they hate the Blues? Of course, not. Some things transcend the reasoned discourse beloved by the left.

Sorry, that should be "reasoned discourse (!)" to indicate how right-thinking people despise the concept.

Abkhazia and South Ossetia's conflict with Georgia is being used as a symbolic chess piece in the rekindling 'East Vs West' tension between NATO and Russia, all made possible by the precedent set by NATO countries who supported Kosovo independence.

Is it simply nerdy statism and delusions of grandeur based on old ideological differences or some sort of strategic battle for future resources that drives this specific conflict?

by 'this specific conflict' i mean the wider underlying one: the enthusiasm of the Russians to get involved 'on behalf' of the Abkhazia and Ossetian seperatists and the enthusiasm of the west to make Russia out as the evil aggressor..

I'm favouring some sort of strategic battle for future resources that is driving the conflict.

the conspiracy theory that the whole thing is a beat up to win McCain the presidency is not beyond the realms of possibility either, given the folk currently in charge of The Civilised West. After Colin Powell's WMD performance at the UN, anything is possible. Reality need not apply.

I haven't followed the conflict save for a raised eyebrow at the possibility of yet ... more refugees for Australia which tends to follow these squabbles between neighbours in other parts of the world, but wasn't Georgia originally taking police action against separatists?

imagine what the Americans would if the Russians had a presence in Mexico.

Well Nan, with tongue a little in cheek, I'd say they'd be as pleased as punch because: "dem ruskies would sure know how to deal with dem drug barons".

Georgia did invade first. Bit silly really. But Russian troops should leave Georgia as that is an independent state.

No my point is that Georgia didn't invade "anyone"!

It simply attended to some louts on its own turf!

Much like the Australian Federal Government reading the riot act to a seceding Victoria (albeit I wish Victoria would secede and then Lefties could flock there and leave us conservatives in peace).