Revenge? For what, Vietnam? We're already kicking your ass all over the western hemisphere.

The only places you bullshit bolshie bellyaching has any cred are in tottering socialist paradises like France. Good luck with THAT.

We win, you lose, because out world view is more closely corrilated with that troublesome, five-year-plan-wrecking thing that socialists hate: reality. And most people know it, which is why they vote for us. Democracy is such a bitch, isn't it, comrade?

You're out of power and shit out of luck. Oh well. Keep fighting that good fight, loser. Shit, we even sneer better than you.

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You got that bit right.
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Hey Tommo, Ya gotta Keep The Dream Alive mate - cause that's all it'll ever be!

Hi Amos
good to hear from you again. Of course you can sneer better than me. I'm just learning to do it. You've been doing it for years.

Good to see that you are still fighting the old bogeyman -communism and socialism and getting your rocks off by slaying mythic dragons.

Revenge--that was Miranda's word not mine. I thought she was one of your mob.

Jafa ny dream is the Australian one.It is good that you acknowledge it will only ever be a dream, and that your mob won't allow it to become a reality.

Yes that's right, it was just a 'bogyman', not a real threat. Must have been an overactive imagination that shot, starved and murdered 50 million people in China and built about fifty thousand nuclear tipped missiles to point at the west. That's the trendy revisionist lefty theory now it's over, huh? You people make me fucking sick.

The ideology that formalised class resentment, foolish utopianism and the concept of 'benevolent' socilalist control, Marxism, may be discredited by that historically inconvient and unfortulantly massive pile of corpses, but the idiots who marched under those banners are still with us, and still whining. Yes, we slew those dragons and we'll beat you too, moron.

See you at the ballot box.

So the cold war is still being fought, as distinct from pursuing a realist foreign policy based around a balance of power in the Asia Pacific.

Funny I thought from reading the newspapers that China had embraced the capitalsit market and was negotiating with the West to curb North Korea's the development of its nuclear weapons.

Maybe we read different newspapers.

My point, despite your attempt to dodge it, is that the emotions (and that's what they are) and the vareous parapsychologies that created marxism as the angry loser and terrorist's ideology of choice are not the phenomina of yesteryear, they are perrenial human traits. They are here today, angry, inarticulate and as delusianal as ever. You can see it in these anti-globo morons who rioted in Seattle as well as the rainbow of self-congratulatory idiocy that marched against ousting Saddam.

Conservatives understand those people better than they understand themselves, and certainly better than they understand conservatives.

You don't. Your kind are too arrogant to try. And when you utopian fantasists actually get power, an opportunity to try to jam the round pegs of your socialist fantasies into the inconvenient square holes of human nature, they don't fit. Then the sledge-hammer comes out.

But you don't get it. You don't learn. Your patronising tone and your abysmal naivity, you think idiots like you should hold power? No. This is a dangerous world, and no place for children. Sorry, the grownups are in charge now.

"Realist foreign policy", jesus fucking christ, that's a laugh coming from someone like you. You don't do 'realist' my friend, you don't even know what that means exept as a buzzword to stick in front of some idiotic assertion to give yourself the veneer of credibility.

To address an issue such as 'realistic foreign policy', one must first establish which reality one is operating on. If that reality is driven by a failed dogma then one can expect more results like the joke that is Papua-New Guineas independence. Thanks for nothing, Gough.....Man of Dreams.
Pity the majority of Australians didn't share his dream, or the dreams of that Man of Letters, Keating. But that's the deal that most Aussies understand and accept when dealing with a democracy, the majority rules. To rail against the majority one rails against democracy itself. Additionally, to bitch about the prevailing majority one is effectively dismissing their fellow Australians as idiots. So Tommo, do you actually like the majority of Australians ? Could you demonstrate for us that you have respect for ordinary Aussies who have a different reality to you. Would you do so in order to correct my perception that you hold us in disdain and think the majority of Aussies are fuckwits for voting in the Man of Steel, so far three times?

The short man of steel.

Amos,
Your account of the culture wars is a very Nietzchean one.

Strong noble winners versus sickly weak losers.

Eagles v lambs, with eagles eating lambs for breakfast.

Us sickly loser types undermine the warriors strength with our talk about social justice and caring for the natural world so we need a firm foot on our necks to keep us in our place.

Such a view cannot be called an affirmation of democracy. It implies that democracy needs to be controlled by the strong warrior types.

jafa,
if you want a demonstration I suggest that you read the entry on populism at my philosophy.com.

Just type in populism into search.

You raise the chaallenge.I've directed you to what i consider to be the relveant material. It's now up to you to read the material in the light of your challenge.

Otherwise the man of steel stuff is all a bit of a pose.

"Strong noble winners versus sickly weak losers", what a typically sleezy bullshit strawman.

You're the fucking bigmouth with the bigplan. I just hold with free markets, free people and free expression, and let them sort their OWN affairs out. YOUR problem is that your bullshit ideas just can't compete in a free marketplace, where you can't control information like you can to your ignorant dumbass students, and, when free people get a free vote, you get your ass kicked.

I've read through some of your posts, seems most if not all of them can be summed up in these words: "Oh no! Everything is terrible! They're doing everything wrong!". I get tired of hearing it and so does everyone else.

Most people instinctivly despise a whiner and at times of crisis such useless people get pushed aside to bitch from the sidelines.

That's a problem for you and the self-important socialist 'elite' (notice I don't say liberal, you people are anything but that)- you aren't respected because you're a bunch of cowards and failures. As much as you've tried to ideologically enoble failure and deligitimise courage, it hasn't really worked, and, at a time of war, people are remembering what a useless bunch of scumbags you always were.

We should listen to cowards and idiots, why? We've heard your stupid ideas, we think they don't work. When you've attempted to make them work you've failed. Deal with it. These days it's as if the loony left dosn't even expect to be listened to anymore, and takes that as a licence to go even further out into lala land.

VDH said it best:

"These are still perilous times. But if anyone on September 12, 2001, had predicted that 22 months later there would still be no repeat of 9/11; that bin Laden would be either quiet, dead, or in hiding; that al Qaeda would be dispersed, the Taliban gone, and the likes of a Mr. Karzai in Kabul; that Saddam Hussein would be out of power, his sons dead, and an Iraqi national council emerging in his place; that troops would be leaving Saudi Arabia, Arafat ostracized, and Sharon seeking negotiations; that new Middle East agreements under discussion — and all at a cost of fewer than 300 American lives — then he would surely have been written off as a madman. "

All this the U.S has achieved in a year or so. While you bitched and whined and found fault. Jesus, imagine putting up with your bullshit for the four long years of WW2...

Grow a fucking spine and shut the fuck up already, we're all just utterly tired of you.

Or don't grow a spine, don't shut up, who cares? Makes no difference anyway. You're nothing, no-one.

Amos,
how about engaging with the ideas of this weblog rather than the torrent of abuse.

For instance, engage with the 'lie of the land' post--it references several writers on your side of politics.
It is about the role of untruths in politics, the lack of debates in Australia and the concerns about the new Australian foreign policy.

Since you have read losts of my posts then you can engage with the argument that liberal societies are democracries based around the forum as well as free markets.

It would appear from your comments that you do not know how to engage with ideas on specific issues as part of an ongoing debate.

It seems that all you can do is abuse your enemies in a bully boy fashion.