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February 20, 2013

So the Greens have started to distance themselves from the ALP to protect their vote and in preparation for a conservative Abbott Government. They have done so by arguing that climate change is real, it is a serious threat, and that Labor cannot have it both ways. The ALP cannot argue that they take the climate science seriously and at the same time subsidise massive mining and export of fossil fuels to the tune of $10 billion.

Christine Milne then affirmed that the Greens are an independent entity with a clear policy agenda, whilst continuing to support the Gillard government’s supply bills and to vote against any no confidence motions in parliament.

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It's what you would expect in an election year, despite attempts by the Canberra media to paint this as a divorce that sends shock waves through the polity. Some are even saying its time Labor.

Thus shift by the Greens gives the ALP an opportunity to establish its own electoral identity ---it's product in market speak--- after having suffered electoral damage by pretty much sticking to its agreement with The Greens. Labor's product, it seems, is to be the party of “jobs and growth”.

It's all much ado about nothing because disgruntled Labor votes who shift to the Greens will come back as preferences in most seats, and Labor relies on those preferences to be electorally competitive. It has done so a couple of decades.

Tad Tietze at The Drum says The Greens are in a difficult position----the party's now-dead alliance with the Gillard Government weighs like a nightmare on their current political options. He calls this the Greens' dilemma, which he outlines thus:

They [The Greens] refuse to admit the alliance with Labor was a mistake, despite it having cost them support with little to show in return, and so they've made a pragmatic shift to a superficially more independent position. Their desire to be "responsible" has not delivered votes or recognition, because as a party of the Left such an image is less important than taking principled stands. And association with the failed "new paradigm" of minority government has tainted them.

So pricing carbon and making the shift to renewable energy is nothing? This indicates that the core of the Greens is about the corporate domination and exploitation of nature to the point that it causes substantial environmental damage.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 12:06 PM | | Comments (10)


Grattan's analytical and writing skills haven't suffered from her move to "The Conversation."/snark

Being perceived as a (very) minority player in the Howard Government did in the Democrats. It's a risk for any minor party that enters a coalition but especially in a two party system. Points to Christine Milne for doing the sensible thing, but they are in very tricky, unpredictable territory.

Gillard summed it up when she said that the greens are essentially a protest party.
Things were always going to change with Bob gone so this is it.
But from the greens point of view being distant from Labor and slotted back in the middle between the coalition as the alternative choice is where they will get the most votes. So no surprise this is all happening.

Labor's product ---we are the party of “jobs and growth"--- is pretty thin in terms of product. How does that distinguish them from the Coalition?

"The ALP...suffered electoral damage by.. sticking to its agreement with the Greens".
It got tarnished through being associated by tabloid msm in a certain way with the msm's warped conception of what the Greens and their rational aims are.
This was because big business wouldn't take responsibility for the downstream costs of their projects, as identified by science, so the science had to be discredited by it being linked to the Hippy image of some Greens.
But, Tasmania alone ought to remind that Labor remains in a denialist Dark Ages almost as bad as the Tories, as to understanding ecology as part of reasoned planning for fair social and resource use outcomes.

This "gives the ALP an opportunity to establish its own electoral identity ---it's product in market speak---

The ALP says 'The Greens have decided they prefer trees to jobs.' That's old Labor speaking as you can protect jobs and the environment. It's not either or.

Labor is circling the wagons with its jobs v the environment mantra.

Both sides will try to make the alternative party weak or a wasted vote.
There will be plenty of time to cuddle up after the election if support is needed. And the greens will cuddle back if it gives them power.

ALP will likely to slowly drift back towards the centre-right to appeal to outer suburbia. This drift will continue to alienate and retain its educated, progressive inner-city support.

the Prime Minister’s message to the AWU conference last week was that the ALP is the "workers party", as opposed to a progressive or social-democratic one.