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July 19, 2007

I thought that I was pretty battled hardened with the views of conservatives. But these views on a Republican ship of fools pulled me up short. Johann Hari is reporting on the annual cruise of the National Review'. Try this:

I lie on the beach with Hillary-Ann, a chatty, scatty 35-year-old Californian designer. As she explains the perils of Republican dating, my mind drifts, watching the gentle tide. When I hear her say, " Of course, we need to execute some of these people," I wake up. Who do we need to execute? She runs her fingers through the sand lazily. "A few of these prominent liberals who are trying to demoralise the country," she says. "Just take a couple of these anti-war people off to the gas chamber for treason to show, if you try to bring down America at a time of war, that's what you'll get." She squints at the sun and smiles. " Then things'll change."

Gas chambers for American citizens. Wow. This is American decency?

There's more:

A bell rings somewhere, and we are all beckoned to dinner. We have been assigned random seats, which will change each night. We will, the publicity pack promises, each dine with at least one National Review speaker during our trip. o my left, I find a middle-aged Floridian with a neat beard. To my right are two elderly New Yorkers who look and sound like late-era Dorothy Parkers, minus the alcohol poisoning. They live on Park Avenue, they explain in precise Northern tones. "You must live near the UN building," the Floridian says to one of the New York ladies after the entree is served. Yes, she responds, shaking her head wearily. "They should suicide-bomb that place," he says. They all chuckle gently. How did that happen? How do you go from sweet to suicide-bomb in six seconds?

Suicide bomb the UN? The Muslims are taking over Europe and then the worl. The US should bomb Iran. The US has not been t sufficiently "ruthless" in its wars in the e Muslim world.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 6:54 PM | | Comments (5)


Such views are not unusual. It is only a certain group of people who believe in such things as Liberty, Freedom, and Justice. A huge number benignly support the gov't whatever the gov't does - good, bad or indifferent. Then you have those middle class morons who believe that every infingement of what they believe to be right deserves the death penalty.
We really have a cross section of opinion when it comes down to human rights. Stalin & the KGB have many supporters in Australia. I have heard so many people, young and old, who would fit well in a totalitarian society. Until it effects them - of course.

you thought the nazis were unique to german culture?

did you know that dubya's grandfather did time for aiding the nazis?

sociopaths are found in every society, in varying intensities, capitalism encourages it's flowering.

Hari suggests that these are standard views for the Nation Review crowd, not those of sociopaths. Another moment-a paraniod one:

The idea that Europe is being "taken over" by Muslims is the unifying theme of this cruise. Some people go on singles cruises. Some go on ballroom dancing cruises. This is the "The Muslims Are Coming" cruise – drinks included. Because everyone thinks it. Everyone knows it. Everyone dreams it. And the man responsible is sitting only a few tables down: Mark Steyn.

Steyn's thesis in his new book, America Alone, is simple: The "European races" i.e., white people – "are too self-absorbed to breed," but the Muslims are multiplying quickly. The inevitable result will be " large-scale evacuation operations circa 2015" as Europe is ceded to al Qaeda and "Greater France remorselessly evolve[s] into Greater Bosnia."

another quqote from Hari about treacherous liberals

They rush through the Rush-list of liberals who hate America, who want her to fail, and I ask them – why are liberals like this? What's their motivation? They stutter to a halt and there is a long, puzzled silence. " It's a good question," one of them, Martha, says finally. I have asked them to peer into the minds of cartoons and they are suddenly, reluctantly confronted with the hollowness of their creation. "There have always been intellectuals who want to tell people how to live," Martha adds, to an almost visible sense of relief. That's it – the intellectuals! They are not like us. Dave changes the subject, to wash away this moment of cognitive dissonance. "The liberals don't believe in the constitution. They don't believe in what the founders wanted – a strong executive," he announces, to nods. A Filipino waiter offers him a top-up of his wine, and he mock-whispers to me, "They all look the same! Can you tell them apart?"

The intellectuals are traitors for the conservatives who wear their racism openly.

A great line there Gary!! On another matter, I went to the OZ Conservative link.

Having developed into somewhat of a conservative myself (as opposed to the vile Coalition of Evil's version of conservatism), I found it quite interesting.

But like I said to my friends, the problems with these 'true' conservatives, is that they all approach it from an Anglo (or ruling world) perspective.

It distorts their message.