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Canberra Gaze: Coalition on economics « Previous | |Next »
September 3, 2009

I watched Joe Hockey on Lateline last night and then I heard Malcolm Turnbull on Radio National Breakfast this morning talking about the Rudd Government's stimulus package and its impact on economic growth.They both argued that the small economic growth figure of 0.6% in GDP, at a time when the global economy is still in deep recession and negative growth, had very little or nothing to do with the government's fiscal stimulus.

What then caused the Australian economy to grow marginally and so avoid a recession? According to Hockey it was: Australia's very strong economic performance under the Coalition (three cheers) ; there was no massive financial collapses by our banks (thanks to good regulation under the Coalition); there were stronger terms of trade than the last days of the Howard Government (lower dollar increases exports to China); and the right monetary policy in that the Reserve Bank cut interest rates more aggressively than anywhere else.

Hockey inferred from this that, since the government's fiscal stimulus spending had minimal impact (just the cash splash and tax rebates for equipment), it needs to be wound back significantly to ease the massive tax burden that is going to impair our economic recovery over the next few years. Debt and inflation is going to strangle us.

I scratched my head. Who accepts this account-- that the fiscal stimulus package had a minor impact (5 minutes of economic sunshine). Haven't consumers have been propped up by the government handouts? Hasn't the stimulus helped to lessen the rise in unemployment and save jobs? Hasn't it stablized the economy from the external shocks?

The Coalition has consistently denied that the fiscal stimulus has worked since last year, even when most economists in Australia accept the importance of the fiscal stimulus for domestic economic growth. The data confirms this picture. So the Coalition is in denial.

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What is going on here? Keynes, it would appear, is taboo There is a rejection of Keynes' argument that an increase in government spending is a solution to unemployment. His proposed solution is to increase consumption through government through spending deficit spending an public works projects.This Keynesian counter-revolution is one in which the free market and the ideas of Friedrich Hayek are under massive assault. The Keynesians are again in the saddle, riding the whipping horses of “crisis”, “deflation” and “stimulus” to the largest takeover of the free economy in the nation’s history.

The grounds for rejecting the counterrevolution is that government intervention prevents the efficient functioning of the market---adjust to slow conditions through price and wage rate reductions, unsound investments sold off and redirecting capital into more productive and profitable uses. The market does not make systematic errors. The profit motive will cause them to be self-correcting. This happens from private businesses, investors and workers paying for their mistakes. Markets clear if not interfered with. Government should get out of the way by reducing taxation, spending, regulations, and government control of money and the interest rate.

The problem here is that many of those suffering from the global financial crisis clearly did nothing wrong; they're innocent bystanders:--workers who have lost jobs through no fault of their own, investors who have suffered huge wealth losses due to the misfeasance or malfeasance of corporate executives, and well-run businesses that were forced into bankruptcy solely because of the recession.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 2:25 PM | | Comments (18)
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The GDP growth is marginally positive — but it is still low in terms of the requirements for people to have stable employment and steady incomes. Will unemployment continue to rise? My fear is that it will.

the data shows that some of the stimulus package spending is leaving our shores (imports), and it is not being offset by export revenue, which is currently barely changing. The reality is that there has been a loss of export revenue as the contract prices for commodity exports have fallen. So much for Hockey and Turnbull's claims that it is export growth (China booms, Australia sells more rocks) causing the rise in GDP.

the other aspect is that as the glow of the government handouts fades indebted consumers will start reducing debt, rather than spend, especially when their incomes are reduced from working less hours.

Gary I think you're on a wild goose chase to discuss the opposition's position on its logical merits. It's a purely political argument that they can try to get away with because nobody is paying much attention to them right now.

The opposition is in a bind from which there is no escape. They cling proudly to the myth that they are the 'superior economic managers' and therefore they cannot risk conceding that Labor's response to the greatest financial crisis of our lifetimes was more sensible than their incoherent proposals. However all the empirical evidence is that Labor done good (my own view is that it's all mainly down to luck but you can't expect either side to argue that).

Faced with (a) the need to criticise but (b) the reality that Australia seems to have weathered the storm better than anyone expected, it makes sense for them to trivialise the crisis while predicting a doom and gloom future that can't be disproved. It gives the base some talking points to argue and in future they can blame everything on Labor squandering the Costello surplus. 'Labor's black hole' worked so well for Costello for years that naturally they want to create another one.

Costello's departure by the way means he won't be tarnished by any post-government mistakes. It paves the way for him to be beatified as the Bradman of economic managers. Expect future Liberal rhetoric to focus heavily on how awful the national balance sheet is compared to the wonderful one bequeathed by St Peter. I'm sure Peter himself will not be slow to support such a message.

Ken
you are dead right about the politics:

They cling proudly to the myth that they are the 'superior economic managers' and therefore they cannot risk conceding that Labor's response to the greatest financial crisis of our lifetimes was more sensible than their incoherent proposals... it makes sense for them to trivialise the crisis while predicting a doom and gloom future that can't be disproved.

Sitting behind the politics is the economics--a particular way of looking at the economy, government and market. There is an economic debate going on in the background--not that you'd know this from the mainstream press in Australia. They are only interested in the politics.

We need to remember the underemployed not just the unemployed.

Ken Lovell
Faced with (a) the need to criticise but (b) the reality that Australia seems to have weathered the storm better than anyone expected.

Really? I am on the record for calling the so-called GFC a hoax all along. And since March this year I have put my money where my mouth is and made a splendid killing buying ASX200 calls.

I am not a Coalition voter or supporter, but there is no doubt the number one reason for no social and economic calamity in Australia is Peter Costello's policy management of the finance sector and the huge budget surplus and no government debt the Libs bequeathed Labor. This meant Rudd could act decisively with no political risk.

The first two stimulus packages basically spent the Lib surplus. And Australia was the only OECD nation that had such surpluses.

There is no doubt that Aust

Gary


The only place that the particular economic debate you mention takes place is on John Quiggin's blog. There is no smart money even remotely interested in some reactionary re-embrace of a mythical "Keynesian" past.

The coalition is more concerned with politics than with policy or ideology at the moment. The only theory they're interested in is the elusive one that will convince Costello to make a come back.

Whether Australia is weathering the storm or suffering a calamity at the moment is in the eye of the beholder. While JG is making a killing there are plenty of others not doing so well. Peter makes a good point about underemployment.

Around these parts plenty of builders have gone under because credit dried up. Some have been absorbed into the school building thing, but there are plenty of previously successful builders and developers currently doing labour work installing ceiling insulation.

The economy is unevenly distributed. Around here we only do building and tourism, and things would have fallen over in a horrible way if it hadn't been for the stimulus package. Assuming the Libs would have spent less and stopped spending by now, the Gold Coast would be toast.

Thanks John. I'll wander over to Quiggin's blog and have a read. We can talk of the“ intellectual collapse” of the Chicago School, as their model of the economy held that free-market economies never fundamentally go astray, and that nothing in their model of a self-correcting market suggested the possibility of the kind of collapse that happened last year.

The Chicago Schools near perfect model of the capitalist economy does not account for the imperfections of markets — especially financial markets — that can cause the economy’s operating system to undergo sudden, unpredictable crashes. They see that recessions as a good thing, part of the economy’s adjustment to change and that any attempt to fight an economic slump would do more harm than good.

The reason? Markets generally get it right.

Hockey acknowledges that the Australian economy is performing better than expected. And that's good news. Dodging the bullet etc

His argument is that the reason Australia has done well is the Howard-Costello economic inheritance. All those budget surpluses and excellent regulation was a gift for Rudd from Costello. The Coalition are the good guys.

The bad guys are Rudd Government. They are real bad. Labor has spent too much, the stimulus was too big and, with spending at 28.6 per cent of gross domestic product, Rudd operates the biggest spending government for 50 years.

The inference? Labor: that it is the party of rising interest rates and rising taxation. Why so? That is the only way Rudd Labor can repay the huge debt. Labor has not changed its spots. Its natural habitat is the economic badlands.

Some individuals are making a "splendid killing buying ASX200 calls". Therefore things aren't THAT bad. Presumably, those who can't make a go of it aren't really trying.

I'm alright jack...

BAH!!!

mars
That was not my point at all. My point is I thought the doom and gloom 'GFC' propaganda from Rudd, Swan, and cheerleaders was a hoax. I thought this on the basis of economic fundamentals. To back this view up I bought the stockmarket - a prominent, though of course far from perfect guage of economic health and sentiment. Just as I did a lot of other people increasingly also spoke of 'crisis averted' and so on as the promised economic tsunami tuned into a paddle pool.

Having said that, in the current Australia you have no excuse for any perceived tawdry circumstances. If you are dissatisfied get on your bike. If you are familiar with a blog like this, you clearly have a level of education and thirst for knowledge far above the average. If you choose not to use your skills, you cannot blame others for your circumstances.

Good grief man! Are you for real??? Or are you just taking the piss?

"...the doom and gloom 'GFC' propaganda from Rudd, Swan, and cheerleaders"

You might want to explain that to the yanks, poms, japs, Chinese and Germans. Tell them to blame Rudd for their GDP.

"If you choose not to use your skills, you cannot blame others for your circumstances."

Damn right! I assume that applies to General Motors, Bear Stearns, Freddie Mac, Merrill Lynch, AIG and Citigroup. Right? Right???

And, yes, I noticed a while ago that nobody else on this blog bothers taking you seriously any more. Wise move.

The Coalition's "debt and deficit strategy" is now locked in. Thus Turnbull:

What Kevin Rudd has done is set off on a reckless spending program which will put upward pressure on interest rates. I can tell you the homebuyers of Australia and those people paying off debts and mortgages are not going to thank Kevin Rudd for higher interest rates, because his policies are now putting upward pressure on interest rates and of course inevitably will require higher taxes to pay off all the debt.

So Turnbull is committed the opposition to a much tougher fiscal policy than the government's. That means big cutbacks to the budget in the next election. And lower taxes.

It will be interesting to see how they pull that off. My guess is that Hockey is not thinking that far ahead.

John
it need not be the case that the doom and gloom 'GFC' propaganda from Rudd, Swan, and cheerleaders was a hoax because the economic fundamentals were sound. Does that mean governments should have slashed spending in the face of the slump, or if they should have refused to help financial institutions to access overseas money during a credit squeeze?

The other interpretation is that the economic growth and share market rises are due to the huge amount of government money that has been poured into the economy to keep the economic fundamentals from fracturing. Deficits are actually helping the economy-- deficits here and in other major economies saved the global economy from a much deeper slump.

On the latter account, 'tis time for the private sector to do its thing by way of new investment in Australia. Will it do so? That depends on consumers spending over and above the inventory stocks. Will they? We will have to wait and see.

Ah Gary, the government did not expand the money supply, and it has no sources of wealth such as commercial enterprises. Therefore, not one cent of the stimulus packages was "government money". Also, you clearly have never taken even one lecture in economics, so you would do well to leave off with you airy scorn for the "Chicago school". ;)

John
sorry to inform you, but I have a masters degree in economics and politics from NZ and I have read the texts of the latter Chicago School.

As to monetary policy ---Milton Friedman argued that instructing central banks to keep the nation’s money supply, the sum of cash in circulation and bank deposits, growing on a steady path — is all that’s required to prevent depressions. He argued that government should simply manage the supply of money — to keep it growing with the economy — then step aside and let the market do its magic.

The Reserve Bank intervened by reducing interest rates to historically low levels and supported the Government's deposit guarantee plus a guarantee for all borrowing by Australian banks for the big 4 banks. The Rudd Government injected $4 billion for non-bank institutions to provide more funds for housing and extra competition to the big banks.

That kept the money in circulation growing.

"John Greenfield" was banned from my blog for multiple instances of sock puppetry, trolling, false flag attacks and so on. I don't think anything s/he/it says is intended as a serious contribution to discussion - it's just trolling. The standard advice on not feeding trolls applies.