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Greil Marcus: punk, dada, lettrists, situationists « Previous | |Next »
March 06, 2007

Greil Marcus' Lipstick Traces: A Secret History of the 20th Century has a story to tell about music and culture which be summarized thus:

The question of ancestry in culture is spurious. Every new manifestation in culture rewrites the past, changes old maudits into new heroes, old heroes into those who should never have been born. New actors scavenge the past for ancestors because ancestory is legitimacy and novelty is doubt---but in all times forgotten actors emerge from the past not as ancestors but as familiars. I n the 1920s in literary America it was Hermann Melville; in the rock 'n roll 1960s it was Mississippi blues man Robert Johnson of the 1930s; in the entropic Western 1970s it was the carefully absolutist German critic Walter Benjamin of the 1920s and 1930s. In 1976 and 1977, and in the years to follow, as symbolically remade by the Sex Pistols it was, perhaps, dadists, lettrists, situationists, and various medieval heretics. (p.22-23)

It's an interesting story. I'm puzzled by the link to the lettrists and their concern to efface language. I guess punk music effaced the rock music that preceded it. Did it efface Captain Beefheart or the Velvet Underground to make a new culture out of the old chords?

Marcus goes on to say that:

Punk was not a musical genre; it was a moment in time that took shape as a language anticipating its own destruction , and thus sometime seeking it, seeking the statement of what could be said without words or chords. It was not history. It was a chance to create ephemeral events that would serve as judgments on what ever came next, events that would judge all that followed wanting--that too was the meaning of no-future. (p.82)

Words and chords? What has happened to image? Wasn't punk about the image?

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 08:44 AM | | Comments (4)
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I heard The Saints, Stranded, before I ever saw them. I saw the Pistols before I ever heard them.

Francis,
You would have seen images of the Saints and Pistols surely.Punk was about visual signs (the performance, the look, the punk swastika) --as much as the music--that's why Marcus is right to connect it to Dada.

My shorthand always makes sense to me.

I meant that I heard Stranded before I had any image whatsoever of the Saints. And I liked it. I was a bit shocked when I saw video clips and pics. I dunno what I expected but it wasn't what I saw.

With the Pistols I had read about them and seen pictures. I expected the music to be pretty crappy actually - all image and no musical talent. I had to import Never Mind The Bollocks - unheard. I was amazed at how great it sounded. Well most of it.

I had heard about Nirvana froma mate for about two weeks before I was able to listen to Teen Spirit. I had no image at all of what they might look like or even what it might sound like. Blew me away first listen.

I liked bits of Lipstick and his connection to the Situationists and it was thought provoking if a bit serious at times.

While reading it I rememeber I couldn't help thinking that: Plus ça change... (plus c'est la même chose)

The secret of rock band success. Tight rythmn section, charasmatic lead singer, catchy tunes, mumbled or strangled lyrics open to a bit of ambiguity. Worked for the Stones. Oh and in the case of the Pistols a wall of sound a la Phil Spector.

Francis,
that long hand makes more sense. I'm a johnny come lately to a lot of this-- for instance, I've yet to hear much of Nirvana, I'm just working my way through Lipstick Traces, and I'm struggling to understand why Nirvana's Nevermind is deemed a great album.

Why did 'grunge ' change the face of the rock music market with its return to a return to the rawness and vitality of earlier rock and roll? Had punk music been forgotten? Was it because it expressed the disconnect felt by an entire generation?

 
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