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January 2, 2007
Julie Copeland interviews the Australian feminist philosopher Elizabeth Grosz on the ABC's Sunday Morning programme.The interview is partly about the creative process. In it Grosz introduces some Bataiille when she says:
....there’s something about art that is an abundance of excess. Art is the revelry in the excess of nature, but also a revelry in the excess of the energy in our bodies. So we’re not the first artists and we’re perhaps not even the greatest artists, we humans; we take our cue from the animal world. So what is it that appeals to us? It’s the striking beauty of flowers, it’s the amazing colour of birds, it’s the songs of birds. In a way, it’s that excess which, I think, is linked to sexuality rather than to creation or production directly.
Is it? I love to listen and watch birds at Victor Harbor but I don't connect it to my photography. Grosz goes to explain what she means:
Darwin talks about two fundamental processes that regulate all of life; one is natural selection and the other is sexual selection. Natural selection is about survival, and sexual selection, for him, is largely about reproduction or about sexual seduction. And what I think is the origin of art, basically, is that impulse to seduction. So I take it that all forms of art are a kind of excessive affection of the body, or an intensification of the body of the kind which is also generated in sexuality. So it’s something really fundamentally sexual about art, about all of the arts, even though they’re very sublimated. What art is about is about the constriction of the materials, so the materials then become aestheticised or pleasurable. The pleasure of those materials has to do with the intensification of the body. So this impulse to art is to not make oneself seductive but to make oneself intense, and in the process to circulate some of that eros that would otherwise go into sexuality.
Gee and here was me thinking that it was Freud who held that art sublimates sexuality, not Darwin.
Grpsz goes on to say that the fundamental goal of art is to produce sensations--and the reception of art is about feeling something intensely. Now that's Deleuze.
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